Broke the Golden rule and I need help.

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Charlesrey
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Broke the Golden rule and I need help.

Post: # 87161Post Charlesrey
Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:43 pm

So long story short I broke the golden rule and ordered an ant queen online. It was to be my first ever attempt, However there was a mistake on there end and they ended up sending a Camponotus Sansabeanus and a Camponotus fragila instead of the Camponotus discolor I ordered. The good thing is the species are still native to my area. But they arrived with water droplets and brood scattered and wet (no workers or cocoons). Is there anything I can do to save these queens or are they done for. Also any advice would be appreciated since I was expecting and researched a completely different ant.
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Re: Broke the Golden rule and I need help.

Post: # 87163Post AntsAntsAnts
Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:28 pm

Charlesrey wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:43 pm
So long story short I broke the golden rule and ordered an ant queen online. It was to be my first ever attempt, However there was a mistake on there end and they ended up sending a Camponotus Sansabeanus and a Camponotus fragila instead of the Camponotus discolor I ordered. The good thing is the species are still native to my area. But they arrived with water droplets and brood scattered and wet (no workers or cocoons). Is there anything I can do to save these queens or are they done for. Also any advice would be appreciated since I was expecting and researched a completely different ant.

I do not think these queens are done for. Just because they have brood scattered does not mean they are infertile, though it is a sign. Some camponotus queens still tend to spread them out. just raise them until the nanitics arrive but if they turn out to all be males, you can get a refund.
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all my queens died :(
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Re: Broke the Golden rule and I need help.

Post: # 87164Post AntsAntsAnts
Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:30 pm

Charlesrey wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:43 pm
So long story short I broke the golden rule and ordered an ant queen online. It was to be my first ever attempt, However there was a mistake on there end and they ended up sending a Camponotus Sansabeanus and a Camponotus fragila instead of the Camponotus discolor I ordered. The good thing is the species are still native to my area. But they arrived with water droplets and brood scattered and wet (no workers or cocoons). Is there anything I can do to save these queens or are they done for. Also any advice would be appreciated since I was expecting and researched a completely different ant.
Perhaps next time you should buy via the GAN project as the queens ALWAYS have workers. ;)
keeping:
all my queens died :(
got a sugar ant colony started :)

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Re: Broke the Golden rule and I need help.

Post: # 87166Post SYUTEO
Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:28 pm

If the brood is scattered it may be due to shipping or the queen does it herself. Also which website did you order it from? Some well-known ones are actually good.

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Re: Broke the Golden rule and I need help.

Post: # 87175Post AntsAntsAnts
Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:38 am

AC's queen 7 actually had scattered brood and now they have a whole legion of nanitics.
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all my queens died :(
got a sugar ant colony started :)

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Re: Broke the Golden rule and I need help.

Post: # 87180Post Charlesrey
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:10 am

AntsAntsAnts wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:38 am
AC's queen 7 actually had scattered brood and now they have a whole legion of nanitics.
You're not wrong about the GAN farmers lol, I live in Texas and it's 4 to 5 hour drive to the closest ones. And should of waited till nuptials since there are tons of ants here. I have them in a drawer with a heat pad gonna leave them alone for a couple weeks and see if they rebound.
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Re: Broke the Golden rule and I need help.

Post: # 87182Post Charlesrey
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:25 am

SYUTEO wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:28 pm
If the brood is scattered it may be due to shipping or the queen does it herself. Also which website did you order it from? Some well-known ones are actually good.
Its one of the newer shops that sprung up after they changed the shipping laws in 2019, it's called antsemporium, I'm not really mad at them, they mixed up orders, I ordered a common camponotus and they sent me 2 less common queens. I'm just worried all their brood is dead because of the cold or water in chamber during shipping, I have them in a drawer with a heat pad (70 degrees at night 85 during the day) so hopefully they start laying again.
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Re: Broke the Golden rule and I need help.

Post: # 87191Post SolenopsisKeeper
Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:23 am

Charlesrey wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:25 am
SYUTEO wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:28 pm
If the brood is scattered it may be due to shipping or the queen does it herself. Also which website did you order it from? Some well-known ones are actually good.
Its one of the newer shops that sprung up after they changed the shipping laws in 2019, it's called antsemporium, I'm not really mad at them, they mixed up orders, I ordered a common camponotus and they sent me 2 less common queens. I'm just worried all their brood is dead because of the cold or water in chamber during shipping, I have them in a drawer with a heat pad (70 degrees at night 85 during the day) so hopefully they start laying again.
Firstly, there wouldn’t be any brood if they were dead, the queen would eat them or something similar. Also, I think it is fine to ship ants if it is done properly. Also, GAN farmers sell queens with just eggs, and break several federal laws like NOT SELLING INVASIVE ANTS!! Also, in my experience, if you email 6, and text 1 of them, only 1 will get back to you. I emailed them in October. I am sure they have just been figured out what to say for 4 months. Also, my Camponotus will lay the brood out sometimes, and usually it is when they have a lot of mature larvae. You could probably get your discolor queen free, if you contact or call them as they do not expect you to ship those queens back.
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Re: Broke the Golden rule and I need help.

Post: # 87204Post SYUTEO
Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:12 am

Charlesrey wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:25 am
SYUTEO wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:28 pm
If the brood is scattered it may be due to shipping or the queen does it herself. Also which website did you order it from? Some well-known ones are actually good.
Its one of the newer shops that sprung up after they changed the shipping laws in 2019, it's called antsemporium, I'm not really mad at them, they mixed up orders, I ordered a common camponotus and they sent me 2 less common queens. I'm just worried all their brood is dead because of the cold or water in chamber during shipping, I have them in a drawer with a heat pad (70 degrees at night 85 during the day) so hopefully they start laying again.
Antsemporium? Well, it's rather difficult to say if they're good or not because there are many mixed reviews of them.

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Re: Broke the Golden rule and I need help.

Post: # 87217Post SolenopsisKeeper
Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:27 pm

SYUTEO wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:12 am
Charlesrey wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:25 am
SYUTEO wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:28 pm
If the brood is scattered it may be due to shipping or the queen does it herself. Also which website did you order it from? Some well-known ones are actually good.
Its one of the newer shops that sprung up after they changed the shipping laws in 2019, it's called antsemporium, I'm not really mad at them, they mixed up orders, I ordered a common camponotus and they sent me 2 less common queens. I'm just worried all their brood is dead because of the cold or water in chamber during shipping, I have them in a drawer with a heat pad (70 degrees at night 85 during the day) so hopefully they start laying again.
Antsemporium? Well, it's rather difficult to say if they're good or not because there are many mixed reviews of them.
It is a hit or miss
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