Lasius Niger - Multiple Queen Advice

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M4M1K3
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Lasius Niger - Multiple Queen Advice

Post: # 51497Post M4M1K3
Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:10 pm

Hey guys, so glad to be here and this is my very first post. Just like most of you guys I started watching AntsCanada and now I'm hooked! I've always had a huge interest in ants from a young age but his videos have pushed me that little bit further to finally start my own colony.

I currently have two lasius niger queens in seperate test tube setups and both have laid their eggs which is so exciting. The reason I caught two queens was because I was told it could be quite hard to get them to settle and it would be good to increase my chances. As luck would have it, it seems I've been successful with both :D My problem is I honestly don't think I can manage two colonies especially as I'm making my own foricariums and I don't have a massive amount of space. Therefore I wanted advice on merging the two queens? I've read that There s a high chance they will battle until the death which would be so sad to see as I've cared for them both but if there was a possibility of them joining forces that would be even more amazing!

I'd love to know your thoughts.

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Re: Lasius Niger - Multiple Queen Advice

Post: # 51521Post cheetawolf
Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:07 pm

nope ive tried it multiple times, they will not merge sorry to say-
yay for ants!

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M4M1K3
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Re: Lasius Niger - Multiple Queen Advice

Post: # 51528Post M4M1K3
Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:21 am

That's what I thought but was worth checking, thanks.

I will just have to be a little more creative with my second setup in terms of size :geek:

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Re: Lasius Niger - Multiple Queen Advice

Post: # 51705Post AntsDakota
Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:36 pm

cheetawolf wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:07 pm
nope ive tried it multiple times, they will not merge sorry to say-
Lasius niger are rare in North America. Lasius americanus is the correct term for Lasius niger in North America.
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

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Re: Lasius Niger - Multiple Queen Advice

Post: # 51706Post AntsDakota
Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:37 pm

But I've never heard of Lasius niger being polygynous either.
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

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Re: Lasius Niger - Multiple Queen Advice

Post: # 51720Post TheRealAntMan
Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:47 pm

AntsDakota wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:36 pm
cheetawolf wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:07 pm
nope ive tried it multiple times, they will not merge sorry to say-
Lasius niger are rare in North America. Lasius americanus is the correct term for Lasius niger in North America.
Lasius Niger may not even be in North America.
An ants' strength can be rivaled by few animals compared to relative body size.

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Re: Lasius Niger - Multiple Queen Advice

Post: # 51773Post AntsDakota
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:09 pm

Well, Batspiderfish said "rare", but they could also be non-existent in North America, too.
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

M4M1K3
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Re: Lasius Niger - Multiple Queen Advice

Post: # 51777Post M4M1K3
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:16 pm

AntsDakota wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:36 pm
cheetawolf wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:07 pm
nope ive tried it multiple times, they will not merge sorry to say-
Lasius niger are rare in North America. Lasius americanus is the correct term for Lasius niger in North America.
I'm from the UK and believe Lasius Niger is the correct term here but I'm open to being corrected :D

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Re: Lasius Niger - Multiple Queen Advice

Post: # 51779Post AntsDakota
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:17 pm

M4M1K3 wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:16 pm
AntsDakota wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:36 pm
cheetawolf wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:07 pm
nope ive tried it multiple times, they will not merge sorry to say-
Lasius niger are rare in North America. Lasius americanus is the correct term for Lasius niger in North America.
I'm from the UK and believe Lasius Niger is the correct term here but I'm open to being corrected :D
Yeah, Lasius niger is native to Europe, including the U.K.
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

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