I caught what I believe an ant queen pics included to be IDd

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tetriminoss
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I caught what I believe an ant queen pics included to be IDd

Post: # 29436Post tetriminoss
Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:10 am

EDIT:

Date: caught August 18, 2017
Location: Mississauga Ontario, Canada

Measurements (approx):
From antennae to end of hind legs: 1.3 cm
gaster: .5 cm > 5mm
thorax: .4 cm > 4mm
head: .2 cm > 2mm


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a noobie here, be kind!
thanks in advance!

*hoping this is a queen*
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Re: ID Request

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Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:17 am

Either Formica / Camponotus Sp.
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Re: I caught what I believe an ant queen pics included to be IDd

Post: # 29442Post tetriminoss
Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:38 am

I see, I'm more inclined to Formica because I caught her near the woods which has I believe to nest a Formica.

thanks for replying!
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Re: I caught what I believe an ant queen pics included to be IDd

Post: # 29456Post TexasGuy
Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:59 pm

Its definitely a queen may be a camponotus

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Re: I caught what I believe an ant queen pics included to be IDd

Post: # 29459Post AntsManhattan
Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:09 pm

Its Formica or Lasius. Camponotus queens have very big wide heads

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Re: I caught what I believe an ant queen pics included to be IDd

Post: # 29477Post AntsRule
Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:51 pm

I am leaning formica :D
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Re: I caught what I believe an ant queen pics included to be IDd

Post: # 29496Post Jadeninja9
Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:39 pm

It's 100% Formica.
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Re: I caught what I believe an ant queen pics included to be IDd

Post: # 29498Post Jadeninja9
Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:49 pm

The possible possibilities could be Formica fusca, Formica argentea, Formica subaenescens, Formica hewitti, and Formica subsericea.
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Re: I caught what I believe an ant queen pics included to be IDd

Post: # 29506Post Batspiderfish
Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:32 pm

There are a few more black Formica than those (i.e. F. glacialis, F. podzolica); we would need to better see the hair coverage of the gaster to tell them apart.

Also, Formica fusca may or may not legitimately exist in North America. I've noticed that they've stopped showing up in field guides, but I haven't figured out why yet. I am assuming that they are just misidentifications of our native fusca-complex species (Formica subaenescens, for example).
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Re: I caught what I believe an ant queen pics included to be IDd

Post: # 29513Post Jadeninja9
Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:45 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:32 pm
There are a few more black Formica than those (i.e. F. glacialis, F. podzolica); we would need to better see the hair coverage of the gaster to tell them apart.

Also, Formica fusca may or may not legitimately exist in North America. I've noticed that they've stopped showing up in field guides, but I haven't figured out why yet. I am assuming that they are just misidentifications of our native fusca-complex species (Formica subaenescens, for example).
Wow, interesting. I've seen Formica fusca pictures by Jack Wild in California but I don't know how good he is at identifying.
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