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daxling12
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ant population control

Post: # 18687Post daxling12
Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:46 am

ive heard of lowering the tempature for ants or reducing the amount of food they recieve but if a colony starts growing a bit too large would it be ill advised depending on the species to occasionally use it as a treat for another pet like frog/lizard/snake whichever would naturally hunt this ant and its feeder insect as well. of course since i know they arent nutritious it wouldn't work as a sustained diet but thought it might work as a good means of population control if the ants grow out of hand and a good treat for the other pet any other thoughts on this? or warnings ?

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Re: ant population control

Post: # 18707Post merkantur
Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:55 pm

You could reduce the food slowly to give your ants enough time to adapt so they won't have too many deaths.

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Post: # 18714Post jwatson16202
Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:20 pm

I'm not sure I would feed my captive colony to another pet, that seems remarkably callous.

Your best bet is to lower the temperature slightly and reduce their food intake a little as soon as the colony starts getting to the maximum manageable size for you. Both of these things will slow the development of existing brood, and lower the queen's egg laying rate.
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Re: ant population control

Post: # 18745Post MadVampy
Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:55 pm

daxling12 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:46 am
ive heard of lowering the tempature for ants or reducing the amount of food they recieve but if a colony starts growing a bit too large would it be ill advised depending on the species to occasionally use it as a treat for another pet like frog/lizard/snake whichever would naturally hunt this ant and its feeder insect as well. of course since i know they arent nutritious it wouldn't work as a sustained diet but thought it might work as a good means of population control if the ants grow out of hand and a good treat for the other pet any other thoughts on this? or warnings ?
I really don't know how to react to this. Ok yes if you want to slow down the growth of your colony you can do that with adjustments to their food supply and or temperature of their nest's or the room they are kept in.

As far as taking and trying to reduce the size by feeding them to another pet? I kind of find that repulsive. I could use use the same example you used with other pets like cats or dogs but that would be inhumane to even suggest.

Let's make this clear about ants, they have large colonies for a couple of reasons. #1 an average ant doesn't live that long (Solenopsis only live about a month) and it can take about 2 to 3 weeks for a egg to enclose to provide a replacement worker so it's a continuing cycle to replace those that die. #2 They are large in number because they have to cover so many roles in the colony. #3 they have to at times forage a large distance to acquire food for the colony and in doing so will lose numbers in doing so. #4 Lastly with being so small ants do things in large numbers, whether it be hunting down larger prey, defending the colony against attacks, building the nest and so forth.

Not a personal attack against you but if you don't want a colony that "Might get too big" then I suggest finding a some workers and be content with a colony that will never grow. Because if you have a colony that has a Queen or Queens and is feed and kept like it should be they will grow thats for sure, it's just part of keeping ants as pets.
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Re: ant population control

Post: # 18854Post merkantur
Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:51 am

If it gets too big you could always release them or put them up on the GAN project

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Re: ant population control

Post: # 18856Post Martialis
Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:11 am

merkantur wrote:
Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:51 am
If it gets too big you could always release them or put them up on the GAN project
It is irresponsible to release invasive species.
daxling12 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:46 am
ive heard of lowering the tempature for ants or reducing the amount of food they recieve but if a colony starts growing a bit too large would it be ill advised depending on the species to occasionally use it as a treat for another pet like frog/lizard/snake whichever would naturally hunt this ant and its feeder insect as well. of course since i know they arent nutritious it wouldn't work as a sustained diet but thought it might work as a good means of population control if the ants grow out of hand and a good treat for the other pet any other thoughts on this? or warnings ?
What species are you talking about? I agree that feeding them to other pets isn't a good idea.
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Re: ant population control

Post: # 19016Post merkantur
Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:21 pm

Martialis wrote:
Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:11 am
merkantur wrote:
Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:51 am
If it gets too big you could always release them or put them up on the GAN project
It is irresponsible to release invasive species.
I don't think it's a problem if the queen was caught in the same area.

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Re: ant population control

Post: # 19019Post Martialis
Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:25 am

merkantur wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:21 pm
Martialis wrote:
Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:11 am
merkantur wrote:
Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:51 am
If it gets too big you could always release them or put them up on the GAN project
It is irresponsible to release invasive species.
I don't think it's a problem if the queen was caught in the same area.
It can be. If I were to take a Solenopsis invicta queen, transport it to my house, and then release it, it would be irresponsible. Releasing a colony of them is basically the same. Why would you endanger the wildlife even more than it already is by the species?
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