Greetings and Identifying my Queen

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PlaylikeSteve
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Re: Greetings and Identifying my Queen

Post: # 37293Post PlaylikeSteve
Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:22 pm

No workers. You mean eggs which are half developed to an ant?

I hope i understand it right. :?:

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Re: Greetings and Identifying my Queen

Post: # 37353Post PlaylikeSteve
Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:47 am

So another two new queens... :D
Again hopefully queens.

I think i will set the Formica social parasite free...

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Re: Greetings and Identifying my Queen

Post: # 37365Post Batspiderfish
Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:37 am

PlaylikeSteve wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:58 pm
So after reading some websites, I guess I have to get some workers from the nest?

Greetings from Steve
No. Formica social parasites only need pupae, because these are able to open cocoons. Any species from the genus Formica will probably do.

Both your new queens are social parasites. The first one is another Formica queen, the second one is Lasius from the Dendrolasius subgenus (fuliginosus group.)

http://www.formiculture.com/topic/3252-much-ado-about-the-founding-of-lasius-temporary-social-parasites/
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Re: Greetings and Identifying my Queen

Post: # 37374Post PlaylikeSteve
Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:04 pm

Ok. I understand now.
And again... Thank you so much for your help. :)
So what do you suggest me to do?
Is a social parasite an ant for beginners?
Or should I probably set them free?
How can I find pupae? Or can I get pupae other gan?

Greetings from Steve

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Re: Greetings and Identifying my Queen

Post: # 37457Post PlaylikeSteve
Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:09 am

Can I give the lasius pupae from the tetramorium?
Because my tetramorium layed eggs tonight. :)

Only if it could work. Because maybe I set them all free except the tetramorium.

Greetings from Steve

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Re: Greetings and Identifying my Queen

Post: # 37463Post Batspiderfish
Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:04 am

PlaylikeSteve wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:09 am
Can I give the lasius pupae from the tetramorium?
Because my tetramorium layed eggs tonight. :)

Only if it could work. Because maybe I set them all free except the tetramorium.

Greetings from Steve
I should have outlined all the details for keeping the Lasius queen in my link. They need workers from the same genus (Lasius). The Formica queen needs pupae from the same genus. You'll have to find some or else you should let them go.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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Re: Greetings and Identifying my Queen

Post: # 37469Post PlaylikeSteve
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:04 am

Ok I will let them go.

I'll keep the tetramorium. Which seems to be a good beginner ant.

Greetings from Steve

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Re: Greetings and Identifying my Queen

Post: # 38147Post PlaylikeSteve
Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:23 pm

So here are the pictures to identify my first queen... :D

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So i hope this pictures are good enough now... :D

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Re: Greetings and Identifying my Queen

Post: # 38201Post Batspiderfish
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:07 pm

Looks like Lasius emarginatus to me.
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Re: Greetings and Identifying my Queen

Post: # 38233Post PlaylikeSteve
Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:34 am

So am I doing right when I place them both in a separate test tube setup each in the darkness? (like I did :D )

Room temperature and without food until the first workers arrive?
(at this point I´m a little clueless, because I find so much information about the colony starting phase. Some feed them with a drop of honey or a drop of sugar water, others say don´t feed them)

I already ordered a Lasius Haybrid 2.0 Starter Kit from the official store. So when the workers have developed, they can start to move in the portal gate with 3 test tubes attached and then in their new home. :D

Thank you so much for identifying my queens. :D

Greetings from Steve

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