New antkeeper, had to dig up my own colony. PLEASE HELP IDENTIFY

Help with identifying the species your ants

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Digging a 2 ft-1tf-1ft hole I found all these ants. Are they from a different genus?

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PRW3ants

New antkeeper, had to dig up my own colony. PLEASE HELP IDENTIFY

Post: # 32652Post PRW3ants
Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:15 pm

I'm new to the forums and new to the any KEEPER world. I e been feeding and watching ants all my life. As a kid feeding and terrorising ant hills to an adult allowing colonies to grow in my yard and watching them. But recently I planned to purchase ants, I pre made a plaster and sub terrain enclosure. Made it big enough for a thriving ant species from my area, then found AntsCanada in attempt to purchase a queen. I live in Arkansas now and I've recently moved here from Mississippi. Both in united states and neither have a GAN project. So I set out to my backyard to dig up one of multiple ant colonies I see. (I believe I dug up 2 or even 3 different genus of ant on accident) the ants I have are 1-
Very small light tan even white colored ants/they had cavities they were in with allot of eggs. They kept readjusting the eggs once I move them to the enclosure. 2- very small bit shinney black ants found in small cavities with their own eggs. 3- larger than all the other ants and grouped together AFTER I captured the fast ones in the enclosure are about 30 (including what I believe to be 2 winged male ants and 1 larger/but only double in size of the other ants/ a winged female. I hope. Possibly their queen. They are dark brown with lines on the butts "new to ant keeping reminder". I searched Google and I think they're rover ants. PLEASE HELP

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Phoenix
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Re: Inquiry

Post: # 32655Post Phoenix
Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:28 pm

Images?
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PRW3ants

Re: New antkeeper, had to dig up my own colony. PLEASE HELP IDENTIFY

Post: # 32660Post PRW3ants
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:05 pm

Update: went back to he yard to find a queen k owing the ants I had were we out one. I found a wholenst of small shinny black ants. Put them in my ride set up with a large brood and then I saw their queen. I post pics to help identify but even the queen was shinny black. Very small workers. Found no megas within the nest.

PRW3ants

Re: New antkeeper, had to dig up my own colony. PLEASE HELP IDENTIFY

Post: # 32661Post PRW3ants
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:06 pm

I put them in my tube set up*

PRW3ants

Re: New antkeeper, had to dig up my own colony. PLEASE HELP IDENTIFY

Post: # 32666Post PRW3ants
Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:24 pm

For some reason when I upload a file under the attachments icon it says the file is to big.
Phoenix wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:28 pm
Images?

PTasker15
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Re: New antkeeper, had to dig up my own colony. PLEASE HELP IDENTIFY

Post: # 32670Post PTasker15
Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:29 am

Lasius Niger,Lasius Allienus,Or Something Involving Monomorium
Keeping ants for 6 years now.

Current Species: Camponotus pennsylvanicus, Camponotus decipiens,Camponotus snellingi Solenopsis invicta,Nylanderia sp,Brachmyrmex patagonicus,Pheidole obscurothorax,Pheidole moerens,Pachycondyla harpax

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idahoantgirl
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Re: New antkeeper, had to dig up my own colony. PLEASE HELP IDENTIFY

Post: # 32683Post idahoantgirl
Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:52 am

PTasker15 wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:29 am
Lasius Niger,Lasius Allienus,Or Something Involving Monomorium
There is absolutely positively no way you can narrow it down that far without pics.
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Tapinoma Sessile

PRW3ants

Re: New antkeeper, had to dig up my own colony. PLEASE HELP IDENTIFY

Post: # 32684Post PRW3ants
Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:44 am

You are right. I spent time last night observing and researching it's monomorium minimum

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idahoantgirl
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Re: New antkeeper, had to dig up my own colony. PLEASE HELP IDENTIFY

Post: # 32686Post idahoantgirl
Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:54 pm

PRW3ants wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:44 am
You are right. I spent time last night observing and researching it's monomorium minimum
When did you catch this queen? Tetramorium and monomorium are very similar in appearance.
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Tapinoma Sessile

PTasker15
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Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:41 am
Location: Houston,TX

Re: New antkeeper, had to dig up my own colony. PLEASE HELP IDENTIFY

Post: # 32688Post PTasker15
Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:02 pm

idahoantgirl wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:52 am
PTasker15 wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:29 am
Lasius Niger,Lasius Allienus,Or Something Involving Monomorium
There is absolutely positively no way you can narrow it down that far without pics.
He Describe's Them As Being "Black,Small,And Glossy"
Keeping ants for 6 years now.

Current Species: Camponotus pennsylvanicus, Camponotus decipiens,Camponotus snellingi Solenopsis invicta,Nylanderia sp,Brachmyrmex patagonicus,Pheidole obscurothorax,Pheidole moerens,Pachycondyla harpax

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