Unidentified ant queen.

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ZllGGY
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Unidentified ant queen.

Post: # 31693Post ZllGGY
Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:12 pm

Found this queen a couple weeks back and I think it may be camponatis pens. But I can't tell for sure and she was also trying to tear at her cotton blocking the exit of the test tube. She's all black no red markings and also shiny. Will post a picture in a couple hours the ones I have are too big of a size

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Re: Unidentified ant queen.

Post: # 31700Post ZllGGY
Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:32 pm

https://i.imgur.com/3KKSLlV.jpg
https://imgur.com/WpMhquJ
She is about 1.0 to 1.2 cm in size she wouldn't stay still enough for an exact estimate and she was caught in south eastern wyoming at about 9000ish feet elevation

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Re: ID Request

Post: # 31709Post Phoenix
Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:44 am

Either Formica / Lasius Sp.
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Re: Unidentified ant queen.

Post: # 31715Post ZllGGY
Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:36 am

Is it too late in the season for her to be fertile do you think?

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Re: Unidentified ant queen.

Post: # 31912Post ZllGGY
Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:49 pm

So I have managed to narrow it down to lasius don't think she's formica but really hoping she's not a lasius umbratus that would mean she's a parasite queen and pretty much useless to me right now so can anyone help me narrow it down? Much appreciation from a new ant keeper

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Re: Unidentified ant queen.

Post: # 31914Post Batspiderfish
Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:44 pm

Formica sp. Hard to tell which species without a clear look at the shininess of each gastral segment.
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Re: Unidentified ant queen.

Post: # 31916Post ZllGGY
Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:49 pm

Hmmm formica for sure? Looked up nuptial flights of North America and the only formica flying around the time I found her was formica biiphilica but she doesn't look like that. I can try to provide a better picture later today if that will help.

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Re: Unidentified ant queen.

Post: # 31917Post idahoantgirl
Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:51 pm

ZllGGY wrote:
Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:49 pm
Hmmm formica for sure? Looked up nuptial flights of North America and the only formica flying around the time I found her was formica biiphilica but she doesn't look like that. I can try to provide a better picture later today if that will help.
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Re: Unidentified ant queen.

Post: # 31918Post ZllGGY
Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:02 pm

I trust him lol just was hoping the nuptial flight calender was accurate is all. Well will go buy a macro lens for my phone so I can take a better if picture

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Re: Unidentified ant queen.

Post: # 31920Post Batspiderfish
Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:41 pm

Haha.

Not all Formica fly in July. F. subsericea only just stopped flying here in Maine. I wouldn't put too much faith in the current nuptial flight schedules.
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