2 species to identify

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PDelta41
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2 species to identify

Post: # 27686Post PDelta41
Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:13 pm

The first species is a tiny red or yellow species
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She was caught July 7 in the early evening, in Dayton, NV, USA
She's about 5mm long (just under 1/4 inch).


The other species is suspected to be a Camponotus vicinus.
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They were caught in mid-June, in Dayton, NV, USA
They are about 12mm long (1/2 inch)

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12 Pogonomyrmex californicus queens
1 Solenopsis molesta queen

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Re: 2 species to identify

Post: # 27689Post JackPayne
Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:55 am

The first is probably a solenopsis or pheidole species.
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Re: 2 species to identify

Post: # 27691Post PDelta41
Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:03 am

Hrmm. Any possibility that it's a brachymyrmex depilis? Does anyone know when they fly? They look like the right shape, size, color and nest preferences.
Founding:
2 Formica neogagates? colonies
5 Tetramorium e colonies
12 Pogonomyrmex californicus queens
1 Solenopsis molesta queen

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Re: ID Request

Post: # 27693Post Phoenix
Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:28 am

Brachymyrmex Only Have 1 Petiole Node Though; I'll Say That Solenopsis Sp Seems More Likely.
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Re: 2 species to identify

Post: # 27708Post Batspiderfish
Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:38 am

Looks like a Solenopsis thief ant and either Myrmecocystus or Formica. More/better-lit pictures might get you a little further.
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Re: 2 species to identify

Post: # 27759Post KipMoore
Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:14 pm

Ok the first one looks like it could be Solenopsis xyloni, if not you only have like 3 species of Solenopsis in Nevada. The second could be Myrmecocystus.
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Re: 2 species to identify

Post: # 27775Post PDelta41
Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:59 pm

Okay, after researching the genera you suggested, (and some really grainy videos with my phone), I agree that the tiny red one is Solenopsis molesta (though she was caught July 5). Agree that the big one is Formica sp., likely either Formica neogagates or Formica neoclara. Not that my track record with identification is anything but lousy (though I'm pretty sure I at least got my Tetramorium e and Pogonomyrmex californicus right).

I'll post a bunch more images (with the best lighting I could figure out) in the next post. This species moves in rapid bursts, with frequent brief pauses. They are also excellent climbers.
Founding:
2 Formica neogagates? colonies
5 Tetramorium e colonies
12 Pogonomyrmex californicus queens
1 Solenopsis molesta queen

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Re: 2 species to identify

Post: # 27776Post PDelta41
Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:02 am

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Founding:
2 Formica neogagates? colonies
5 Tetramorium e colonies
12 Pogonomyrmex californicus queens
1 Solenopsis molesta queen

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