New Queen-need ID...

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New Queen-need ID...

Post: # 22771Post xTNxANTMANx
Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:05 pm

I really hope this one photo is enough but this queen is 3mm...well, roughly 3.5mm. I caught her with my blacklight setup along with a couple of Pheidole queens about a week ago. You can see she already has a small batch of eggs :-)...
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Camponotus subbarbatus
Formica pallidefulva x2
Formica subsericea x4
Lasius sp
Tetramorium immigrans x2
Dorymyrmex bureni

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Formica pallidefulva
Unknown sp x2

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Re: New Queen-need ID...

Post: # 22892Post xTNxANTMANx
Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:30 pm

It has been 2 days since I made this post so I'm guessing no one has an idea on what species this is. I'm just doing this to bump it up just in case it got overlooked. I can try to get more pictures if needed but this was the best I got in the amount of time I had her out. I don't like stressing my Queens out too much.
Keeping:
Camponotus subbarbatus
Formica pallidefulva x2
Formica subsericea x4
Lasius sp
Tetramorium immigrans x2
Dorymyrmex bureni

Founding:
Formica pallidefulva
Unknown sp x2

Martialis
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Re: New Queen-need ID...

Post: # 22900Post Martialis
Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:08 pm

Stenamma sp. Basically like a miniature Myrmica, she's semi-claustral.
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Re: New Queen-need ID...

Post: # 22902Post Aquaexploder
Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:33 pm

Just curious what does your blacklight setup look like? I am trying to make one but so far the one I made has not caught anything.
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Lasius Neoniger (2X)

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Re: New Queen-need ID...

Post: # 22903Post xTNxANTMANx
Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:01 pm

I basically have a 24-inch blacklight set up around my back door for easy access. Then I have a sheet that I have set up in front of it that way the black light shines on the sheet Illuminating it. It's just something simple that I set up in my backyard kinda but also easy to access from My Backdoor.
Keeping:
Camponotus subbarbatus
Formica pallidefulva x2
Formica subsericea x4
Lasius sp
Tetramorium immigrans x2
Dorymyrmex bureni

Founding:
Formica pallidefulva
Unknown sp x2

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Re: New Queen-need ID...

Post: # 22925Post Batspiderfish
Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:06 pm

I don't agree with Stenamma. More pictures, please? Three is a good number.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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Re: New Queen-need ID...

Post: # 22930Post Martialis
Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:27 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:06 pm
I don't agree with Stenamma. More pictures, please? Three is a good number.
I was a bit iffy with that myself. May I ask what dissuade you from it? They look similar to my Stenamma, which look like this:

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Re: New Queen-need ID...

Post: # 22933Post Batspiderfish
Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:32 pm

The length of the first petiole looks kind of normal, but it's only one picture. I wouldn't compare that to an undershot, which are very rarely useful.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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Re: New Queen-need ID...

Post: # 22934Post Martialis
Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:39 pm

Ya, this is an undershot. The worker up top was what I was looking at but she's out of focus.
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Re: New Queen-need ID...

Post: # 22941Post xTNxANTMANx
Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:26 pm

I kind of figured I would need a couple more pictures. I'll do my best and see what I can get tonight when I get home. It's been like four or five days since I have checked on them so I'm sure me checking on them for a couple minutes tonight won't stress them out too much. And I mean them as this queen and a few other different Queens I have in my test tube racks. Only have one of this girl :-)
Keeping:
Camponotus subbarbatus
Formica pallidefulva x2
Formica subsericea x4
Lasius sp
Tetramorium immigrans x2
Dorymyrmex bureni

Founding:
Formica pallidefulva
Unknown sp x2

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