Help with ID?

Help with identifying the species your ants

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Saeyoung
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Help with ID?

Post: # 21259Post Saeyoung
Tue May 16, 2017 5:29 pm

Caught this little girl in the Kawartha Lakes area of Ontario - East of Toronto. She's roughly 1 cm long but she moves pretty fast so it's hard to get an exact measurement. I found her when I was splitting wood for the fire place. Any ideas on what she is? I found her in a wooden log so I'm guessing some kind of small camponotus? And is that mesosoma big enough for a queen? I'm fairly new to ants so I have no clue.
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Currently searching for: Camponotus noveboracensis, Tetramorium Sp.E., or Formica fusca

Captured/Keeper of:
Lasius umbratus
Prenolepis imparis

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Aquaexploder
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Re: Help with ID?

Post: # 21260Post Aquaexploder
Tue May 16, 2017 5:48 pm

I think I caught the same thing http://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=3267&p=21257#p21257
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Camponotus nearcticus

Prenolepis imparis

Myrmica

JackPayne
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Re: Help with ID

Post: # 21261Post JackPayne
Tue May 16, 2017 6:00 pm

It looks like a camponotus queen, I can't identify its species though.
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Martialis
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Re: Help with ID?

Post: # 21263Post Martialis
Tue May 16, 2017 6:19 pm

Keeper of

Aphaenogaster cf. rudis

Tetramorium caespitum

Crematogaster sp.

Tapinoma sessile

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Saeyoung
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Re: Help with ID?

Post: # 21264Post Saeyoung
Tue May 16, 2017 6:33 pm

I can agree, she does look an awful lot like 'Lasius umbratus' in the link you gave.

Good lord I don't even know how to start a social parasite... this could be a disaster if she is one/Queen.
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Currently searching for: Camponotus noveboracensis, Tetramorium Sp.E., or Formica fusca

Captured/Keeper of:
Lasius umbratus
Prenolepis imparis

Martialis
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Re: Help with ID?

Post: # 21265Post Martialis
Tue May 16, 2017 6:36 pm

Which is why I linked that guide. ;)
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Aphaenogaster cf. rudis

Tetramorium caespitum

Crematogaster sp.

Tapinoma sessile

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Saeyoung
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Re: Help with ID?

Post: # 21266Post Saeyoung
Tue May 16, 2017 6:41 pm

Yes, I appreciate it! I'm reading through it right now. Might have to look around for someone who'd be willing to give me some workers to help her start. I literally only have 1 ant in my house right now, the new girl, so I don't have any established colonies.

EDIT: Actually, do you think it would work if I stole some young workers and broode from an outdoor colony? I have a nest of citronella odorous ants outside my house. They frequently bring their broode up under a big rock in my yard, I've tipped it once before and seen like hundreds of these little stinkers. I just looked in to them and apparently they are a Lacuis species (Either Lasius claviger or Lasius interjectus), do you think that would work?
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Currently searching for: Camponotus noveboracensis, Tetramorium Sp.E., or Formica fusca

Captured/Keeper of:
Lasius umbratus
Prenolepis imparis

Martialis
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Re: Help with ID?

Post: # 21267Post Martialis
Tue May 16, 2017 6:50 pm

That could work, although I'm unsure if L. umbratus can accept Acanthomyops workers.
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Aphaenogaster cf. rudis

Tetramorium caespitum

Crematogaster sp.

Tapinoma sessile

xTNxANTMANx
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Re: Help with ID?

Post: # 21268Post xTNxANTMANx
Tue May 16, 2017 6:58 pm

I have found 4 Lasius interjectus queens this year and I let mine go. :( i want to have a better understanding of the Lasius sp b4 I try my hands on a parasite queen. Maybe next year for me....
Keeper of:
Aphaenogaster sp
Tapinoma sessile
Camponotus subbarbatus x2

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Camponotus pennsylvanicus x2
Camponotus subbarbatus
Camponotus nearcticus x3

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Saeyoung
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Re: Help with ID?

Post: # 21275Post Saeyoung
Tue May 16, 2017 10:37 pm

Just thought of something, if she's a social parasite and she don't need a clustral chamber how should I be keeping her? Would the general testube set up still keep her comfortable? Should I be feeding her?

Also, Martialis and I did both say she looks like she could be Lasius(Lasius umbratus?) but can I get a positive ID from anybody? I'd like to be sure before I do anything with her.
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Currently searching for: Camponotus noveboracensis, Tetramorium Sp.E., or Formica fusca

Captured/Keeper of:
Lasius umbratus
Prenolepis imparis

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