Is this crematogaster?

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Is this crematogaster?

Post: # 19900Post BleedingRaindrops
Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:55 am

I was working on a wood project the other day when this sweet thing came to visit me. I've heard crematogaster have heart shaped gasters. This looks pretty heart shaped. This is the only clear picture I have though. I didn't have a ruler but against my pinkie (if assumed to be 1cm wide) she was about 4-5mm long. I am on Okinawa, Japan.

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Nylanderia sp.
Camponotus sp.
Paratrechina Longicornis
Pheidole sp.

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Re: Is this crematogaster?

Post: # 19902Post xTNxANTMANx
Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:28 am

Yep, that be a species of Crematogaster. :-) Easy to tell with that bum she has lol.
Keeping:
Camponotus subbarbatus
Formica pallidefulva x2
Formica subsericea x4
Lasius sp
Tetramorium immigrans x2
Dorymyrmex bureni

Founding:
Formica pallidefulva
Unknown sp x2

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Re: Is this crematogaster?

Post: # 19908Post Fulkol
Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:46 am

damn what a beauty

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Re: ID Request

Post: # 19913Post Phoenix
Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:54 am

There's More To Identifying Crematogaster Queens, Than A Heart-Shaped Gaster.
For Instance, They Have Two Petiole Nodes Instead Of One.

But Yeah, This Is A Crematogaster Worker.
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Re: ID Request

Post: # 19917Post Martialis
Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:28 am

Phoenix wrote:
Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:54 am
There's More To Identifying Crematogaster Queens, Than A Heart-Shaped Gaster.
For Instance, They Have Two Petiole Nodes Instead Of One.

But Yeah, This Is A Crematogaster Worker.
Nope. Crematogaster queens still have that one petiole. ;) There is more to identifying Crematogaster than the gaster, though.

That said, I concur. Crematogaster worker.
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Re: ID Request

Post: # 19922Post Phoenix
Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:37 am

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Re: Is this crematogaster?

Post: # 19929Post xTNxANTMANx
Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:24 pm

I know there is more to it than just the gaster but I you can easily tell this one is a crematogaster :). And of course it's not a queen. I think they knew that already
Keeping:
Camponotus subbarbatus
Formica pallidefulva x2
Formica subsericea x4
Lasius sp
Tetramorium immigrans x2
Dorymyrmex bureni

Founding:
Formica pallidefulva
Unknown sp x2

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Re: Is this crematogaster?

Post: # 19977Post Batspiderfish
Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:23 am

Crematogaster are from Myrmicinae, and so have two petiole nodes.
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Re: Is this crematogaster?

Post: # 19978Post Martialis
Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:28 am

Batspiderfish wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:23 am
Crematogaster are from Myrmicinae, and so have two petiole nodes.
Wait.. whoops. I'd forgotten they had that stinger. I blame the fact that they use it for a brush rather than its purpose.
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Re: Is this crematogaster?

Post: # 20014Post xTNxANTMANx
Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:21 pm

I know that I'll probably research this as well but when you guys talk about petiole nodes, would that be the area between mesasoma and gaster? And I'm sure I spelled that wrong (mesasoma). I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly where y'all are talking about. Like I said I need to do my research and learn the anatomy of an ant.
Keeping:
Camponotus subbarbatus
Formica pallidefulva x2
Formica subsericea x4
Lasius sp
Tetramorium immigrans x2
Dorymyrmex bureni

Founding:
Formica pallidefulva
Unknown sp x2

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