Polyhrachis queen?

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FelloAntKeeper
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Polyhrachis queen?

Post: # 17464Post FelloAntKeeper
Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:56 am

Hello

Need help in determining if these two ants are queens

Found both ants in my school garden around 3:30PM
there are two colonies,one in the garden harvesting nectar and the other nests between the pavement bricks
(this is another long and boring intro so skip it whenever possible)

I walked around and saw something moving on the pavement,at first I thought it was a fly so i scared it so it will fly away,
but it didn't.
I took a closer look and recognized that it is a Polyrhachis sp,but what caught my attention is its unusual size and big thorax.
caught it with a worker just within a meter(cant find anymore workers or nest site) and examined them.
Tried to find the colony,but found another colony that has trails on some red passion flower vines,harvesting nectar then i spotted this one bulky figure and caught it.she was slightly smaller than Polyrhachis1,but it has a similar figure

Captured ants:
Pavement Colony:
-Polyhrachis1
Size:8mm
-worker (for comparison with Polyrhachis1 and Polyrhachis2)
Size:5mm

Garden Colony:
-Polyhrachis2
Size:7mm

Pictures: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4Dvdu7vMZFOemtIVmhQbXRWTVE (copy-paste link in new tab)
Both ants are calm in their zip lock plastic bags

Polyrhachis1 was found wandering around wingless with only one worker in a 1 meter radius,no other worker spotted
She might be foraging for food since polyrhachisants are semi-claustral

Polyrhachis2 was found on trails around the nest,wingless
I honestly have no clue for this one,since alates won't take off their wings before nuptial flight and a queen wont leave her cell

My last thought is that unless that they are majors,they are queens
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I am very clueless right now

thanks
Founding:
Two Odontomachus sp.
Four Polyrhachis sp.
Un-ID queen(3)
Solenopsis sp

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Re: Polyhrachis queen?

Post: # 18203Post idahoantgirl
Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:14 pm

FelloAntKeeper wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:56 am
Hello

Need help in determining if these two ants are queens

Found both ants in my school garden around 3:30PM
there are two colonies,one in the garden harvesting nectar and the other nests between the pavement bricks
(this is another long and boring intro so skip it whenever possible)

I walked around and saw something moving on the pavement,at first I thought it was a fly so i scared it so it will fly away,
but it didn't.
I took a closer look and recognized that it is a Polyrhachis sp,but what caught my attention is its unusual size and big thorax.
caught it with a worker just within a meter(cant find anymore workers or nest site) and examined them.
Tried to find the colony,but found another colony that has trails on some red passion flower vines,harvesting nectar then i spotted this one bulky figure and caught it.she was slightly smaller than Polyrhachis1,but it has a similar figure

Captured ants:
Pavement Colony:
-Polyhrachis1
Size:8mm
-worker (for comparison with Polyrhachis1 and Polyrhachis2)
Size:5mm

Garden Colony:
-Polyhrachis2
Size:7mm

Pictures: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4Dvdu7vMZFOemtIVmhQbXRWTVE (copy-paste link in new tab)
Both ants are calm in their zip lock plastic bags

Polyrhachis1 was found wandering around wingless with only one worker in a 1 meter radius,no other worker spotted
She might be foraging for food since polyrhachisants are semi-claustral

Polyrhachis2 was found on trails around the nest,wingless
I honestly have no clue for this one,since alates won't take off their wings before nuptial flight and a queen wont leave her cell

My last thought is that unless that they are majors,they are queens
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I am very clueless right now

thanks
Hey! Sorry no one has replied to this yet. I think the green one looks a lot like a queen. She is probably a very interesting species. But, Could we have pictures of all your ants from the side? They look queen like, but I would like more pics. Also, make sure you put them in a proper test tube setup and make sure they are all separated.
Proverbs 6:6-11

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

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Re: Polyhrachis queen?

Post: # 18209Post Canadiananter
Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:26 pm

I believe both are queens. Polyrachis is a possibility. Remember, these are semi-claustral

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Re: Polyhrachis queen?

Post: # 18221Post Phoenix
Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:59 am

Not too certain about its genus; but they're definitely queens.
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Re: Polyhrachis queen?

Post: # 19071Post FelloAntKeeper
Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:41 am

Sorry for the inactivity, been struggling with my mid-test

unfortunately, Polyrhachis1 died and Polyrhachis2 escaped

but I found another one in my housing complex's sidewalk, exactly just like Polyrhachis1

thanks for the help guys!
Founding:
Two Odontomachus sp.
Four Polyrhachis sp.
Un-ID queen(3)
Solenopsis sp

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