5 mm Ant Queen caught in Singapore

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AnthonyP163

Re: 5 mm Ant Queen caught in Singapore

Post: # 12644Post AnthonyP163
Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:20 pm

Some sort of Crematogaster Sp. that seems for sure.

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Re: 5 mm Ant Queen caught in Singapore

Post: # 12657Post Batspiderfish
Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:57 pm

I disagree. I am thinking more along the lines of Pheidole, but there is only one picture and it is tiny.
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Re: 5 mm Ant Queen caught in Singapore

Post: # 12757Post Chewyrockafeller
Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:46 pm

What key do you use to identify ants? The AntWiki key for NA shows a very pronounced 'heart' shape from Cremogaster. From what I get the best 100% way to identify Cremogaster is the how the gaster hangs. But i'm also new to this so I may be wrong. What/Whose 'keys' (proper term?) do you use to identify ants here. I've come across AntWiki and AntKey myself.

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Re: 5 mm Ant Queen caught in Singapore

Post: # 12816Post Batspiderfish
Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:49 pm

Pheidole are often pretty small, but so can be Crematogaster.
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Re: 5 mm Ant Queen caught in Singapore

Post: # 12882Post Batspiderfish
Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:09 pm

When there are 46+ kinds of Crematogaster in a given location, I would not dare to identify to the species unless I had physical details to confirm it. I'm pretty certain this is Pheidole, anyways. We would need some intense closeups to to go any farther than that.
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zpiter

Re: 5 mm Ant Queen caught in Singapore

Post: # 13001Post zpiter
Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:05 am

It is a Pheidole queen. The length of Pheidole is around 5-6mm while Crematogaster sp are slightly longer in length.
I have already caught 30+ Pheidole queens so far so trust me, and I am from Singapore too.
So far only there are only 9 Crematogaster sp in Singapore.

toyboy

Re: 5 mm Ant Queen caught in Singapore

Post: # 16163Post toyboy
Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:54 am

hi, where to catch queen ants in singapore?? pls help

Mdrogun

Re: 5 mm Ant Queen caught in Singapore

Post: # 16779Post Mdrogun
Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:57 pm

zpiter wrote:The length of Pheidole is around 5-6mm
Unfortunately this is not true. While I'm sure there are lots of Pheidole queens that are 5-6mm there are a ton of Pheidole queens that are much larger or smaller. Few Examples:

Pheidole rhea 15mm
Pheidole obscurithorax 10mm
Pheidole navigans 3mm
Pheidole vorax 10mm

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Re: 5 mm Ant Queen caught in Singapore

Post: # 16790Post BleedingRaindrops
Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:16 am

She looks like a Pheidole to me. The head is the right size, the Mesosoma is the right shape, and her gaster is the proper length. 5mm is the right length for Pheidole too
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Nylanderia sp.
Camponotus sp.
Paratrechina Longicornis
Pheidole sp.

zpiter

Re: 5 mm Ant Queen caught in Singapore

Post: # 17451Post zpiter
Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:51 am

Mdrogun wrote:
Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:57 pm
zpiter wrote:The length of Pheidole is around 5-6mm
Unfortunately this is not true. While I'm sure there are lots of Pheidole queens that are 5-6mm there are a ton of Pheidole queens that are much larger or smaller. Few Examples:

Pheidole rhea 15mm
Pheidole obscurithorax 10mm
Pheidole navigans 3mm
Pheidole vorax 10mm
You are correct and wrong at the same time. Yes, there are pheidole that are larger or smaller, but in Singapore, the common pheidole are 5-6mm.

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