Insectaslip/berrier-where?!?

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Insectaslip/berrier-where?!?

Post: # 26437Post tiger01vincent
Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:05 am

Sup, I have now prepared an outworld for my ants. But, I dont really know what barrier I should use!?!!?

What are the options?

I have heard of PTFE (at least thats what I think its called) but where do I find it?

I have also heard of babypowder, how do I prepare that?


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Re: Insectaslip/berrier-where?!?

Post: # 26439Post ACaseoftheMondays
Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:29 am

Three popular options:

Fluon (PTFE)- Best, most expensive, hardest to acquire. I just ordered some, myself, and waiting for it to be delivered. My advice would be to check out some other sites that sell formicaria, and find one closest to you (maybe antkit). Your goal here is to find the lowest shipping cost.

Baby Powder w/ Rubbing Alcohol- Cheap, mostly effective. Ratio isn't really important. The baby powder is the barrier, and the alcohol is used to get it to stick. Works better for some species over others (although, the same can be said for any of these methods, including Fluon)

Vaseline- Easiest to apply, messy, stinky. I use this for my semi-claustral queen setups, because they can't climb, anyway.

These are the most commonly used, experiment and see what works best for your ants. There are also other ant deterrents, such as chalk, citrus, etc. but I never really see any of those discussed here.
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Re: Insectaslip/berrier-where?!?

Post: # 26442Post tiger01vincent
Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:20 am

Wow, ty man! I will use this info!
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Re: Insectaslip/berrier-where?!?

Post: # 26443Post AntOblivion
Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:28 am

Iv'e been wondering too. Because all my camponotus colonies have always gotten past my barrier, including fluon and Vaseline. Iv'e always applied both in every spot they some how always get past
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Re: Insectaslip/berrier-where?!?

Post: # 26447Post tiger01vincent
Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:44 am

Oh..... For real?!?!? How many does escape in an "escape"???? And do they climb back? And how do you find them?
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Re: Insectaslip/berrier-where?!?

Post: # 26449Post tiger01vincent
Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:00 am

ACaseoftheMondays wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:29 am
Three popular options:



Vaseline- Easiest to apply, messy, stinky. I use this for my semi-claustral queen setups, because they can't climb, anyway.
Wait, cant even the workers climb walls if their queen is semi chlusteral!?!?
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Re: Insectaslip/berrier-where?!?

Post: # 26451Post AntOblivion
Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:09 am

tiger01vincent wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:44 am
Oh..... For real?!?!? How many does escape in an "escape"???? And do they climb back? And how do you find them?
Usually 1, but i came home to about 3 workers walking around in my room :lol: Luckily i got them all. I just wish i could get a barrier that actually works
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Camponotus Subbarbatus

Camponotus Pennsylvanicus

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Re: Insectaslip/berrier-where?!?

Post: # 26453Post ACaseoftheMondays
Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:14 am

tiger01vincent wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:00 am
ACaseoftheMondays wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:29 am
Three popular options:



Vaseline- Easiest to apply, messy, stinky. I use this for my semi-claustral queen setups, because they can't climb, anyway.
Wait, cant even the workers climb walls if their queen is semi chlusteral!?!?
Yes.There is a lid, too. It is all I had on hand at the time. I wasn't prepared when I found the queens. The bigger problem for me is that there are no connection holes in the tupperware they are in. Transferring them to something else should be... interesting.
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Pogonomyrmex Occidentalis
Solenopsis Molesta
Formica Argentea
Lasius Flavus
Colonies:
Tetramorium sp.E

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Re: Insectaslip/berrier-where?!?

Post: # 26477Post tiger01vincent
Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:20 pm

ACaseoftheMondays wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:14 am
tiger01vincent wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:00 am
ACaseoftheMondays wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:29 am
Three popular options:



Vaseline- Easiest to apply, messy, stinky. I use this for my semi-claustral queen setups, because they can't climb, anyway.
Wait, cant even the workers climb walls if their queen is semi chlusteral!?!?
Yes.There is a lid, too. It is all I had on hand at the time. I wasn't prepared when I found the queens. The bigger problem for me is that there are no connection holes in the tupperware they are in. Transferring them to something else should be... interesting.
sorry, I did not understand, semi chlusteral queen species CAN'T climb walls?
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Re: Insectaslip/berrier-where?!?

Post: # 26478Post ACaseoftheMondays
Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:32 pm

tiger01vincent wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:20 pm
ACaseoftheMondays wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:14 am
tiger01vincent wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:00 am


Wait, cant even the workers climb walls if their queen is semi chlusteral!?!?
Yes.There is a lid, too. It is all I had on hand at the time. I wasn't prepared when I found the queens. The bigger problem for me is that there are no connection holes in the tupperware they are in. Transferring them to something else should be... interesting.
sorry, I did not understand, semi chlusteral queen species CAN'T climb walls?
I was just saying that my particular queens can't climb, so I wasn't too worried about it at the moment.
Founding:
Pogonomyrmex Occidentalis
Solenopsis Molesta
Formica Argentea
Lasius Flavus
Colonies:
Tetramorium sp.E

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