Fire Ant Barriers

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Fire Ant Barriers

Post: # 21006Post AntsAreAwesome
Thu May 11, 2017 10:34 am

I have a dilemma. I am trying to find a barrier for fire ants. I have tried nearly everything but it does not work. I tried baby powder and rubbing alcohol and they just walk right over it sooner or later. I have tried Vaseline and it only deters them for 5 minutes. I can go on but I think you understand. So does anybody have any suggestions for fire ants or really any ants in general (besides fluon or olive oil)? Or will I just have to deal with them escaping when I have to clean their out world?
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Re: Fire Ant Barriers

Post: # 21008Post Batspiderfish
Thu May 11, 2017 11:07 am

Talcum powder is the best thing next to Fluon/Insectaslip. If you are applying the talcum powder correctly and still having trouble, you may need to provide an inner rim so that the barrier can be applied upside-down.
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Re: Fire Ant Barriers

Post: # 21022Post AntsAreAwesome
Thu May 11, 2017 12:36 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Thu May 11, 2017 11:07 am
Talcum powder is the best thing next to Fluon/Insectaslip. If you are applying the talcum powder correctly and still having trouble, you may need to provide an inner rim so that the barrier can be applied upside-down.
Alright, do you know what is good mixture to use for it to work?

I did notice when I did a test, it seemed to be killing the ants, so is there specific ingredients or other things in the materials that need to be ruled out that could be deadly? The baby powder had fragrance so I don't know if that could have done anything.

And also, have often should I apply the mixture?
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30x Solenopsis invicta (never catch that many it was a mistake ;) )

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Re: Fire Ant Barriers

Post: # 21029Post Batspiderfish
Thu May 11, 2017 2:51 pm

One coat usually lasts me an entire summer, although I have not been keeping large colonies for a while. Does your outworld have vertical walls, and is the band of talcum powder at least three or four times the length of the workers? As long as the mixture is given adequate time to dry out, it shouldn't be dangerous to the ants. I don't have a set formula -- I just make sure that the paint isn't too runny, but not too thick and pasty that it crumples off.
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Re: Fire Ant Barriers

Post: # 21033Post AntsAreAwesome
Thu May 11, 2017 3:38 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Thu May 11, 2017 2:51 pm
One coat usually lasts me an entire summer, although I have not been keeping large colonies for a while. Does your outworld have vertical walls, and is the band of talcum powder at least three or four times the length of the workers? As long as the mixture is given adequate time to dry out, it shouldn't be dangerous to the ants. I don't have a set formula -- I just make sure that the paint isn't too runny, but not too thick and pasty that it crumples off.
Well I did a test with some escapees so I did not let it dry well. I think it was also to thick. I will try some more.
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Re: Fire Ant Barriers

Post: # 21079Post xTNxANTMANx
Thu May 11, 2017 7:13 pm

I know u said other than Fluon but that's what I use and haven't had the first problem yet. It may seem expensive but what you get will last for a really long time. Take my word, it's a great investment.
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Re: Fire Ant Barriers

Post: # 21090Post Lycosa
Fri May 12, 2017 1:21 am

This may sound like a silly idea to some of you, since I'm a noob and do not know, but has anyone ever tried clear packing tape? I use it for feeder roach colonies and it works well. They slip right off it. Just wondering...

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Re: Fire Ant Barriers

Post: # 21124Post ANTphibian
Sat May 13, 2017 4:34 am

Lycosa wrote:
Fri May 12, 2017 1:21 am
This may sound like a silly idea to some of you, since I'm a noob and do not know, but has anyone ever tried clear packing tape? I use it for feeder roach colonies and it works well. They slip right off it. Just wondering...
That isn't silly, but it certainly won't work. It works for roaches, as they aren't really escape artists, but with fire ants who can get through pretty much anything, packing tape will not deter them.I would suggest good quality insect-a-slip. It's expensive, but works very well.
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Re: Fire Ant Barriers

Post: # 21136Post MadVampy
Sat May 13, 2017 9:12 pm

Ok well beings I keep fire ants I'll throw in my two cents! #1 Fireants are escape artist! IF there is a crack these little girls will find it!!! #2 I have tried vaseline, tape, and a few other things but the most effective I've found is baby powder/ rubbing alcohol mix and make a 1 inch strip around the outworld and then 1/2" above that I run a 1" strip of Fluon (insectaslip) as a back up. Between those two they generally don't make it to the top. Yes the Fluon is expensive but it last a good time and does really well.
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Re: Fire Ant Barriers

Post: # 21137Post AntsAreAwesome
Sat May 13, 2017 10:00 pm

MadVampy wrote:
Sat May 13, 2017 9:12 pm
Ok well beings I keep fire ants I'll throw in my two cents! #1 Fireants are escape artist! IF there is a crack these little girls will find it!!! #2 I have tried vaseline, tape, and a few other things but the most effective I've found is baby powder/ rubbing alcohol mix and make a 1 inch strip around the outworld and then 1/2" above that I run a 1" strip of Fluon (insectaslip) as a back up. Between those two they generally don't make it to the top. Yes the Fluon is expensive but it last a good time and does really well.
Ok. Sounds good. Trust me, I know these ladies are escape artists, I've had far to many expirences with them. Just the other day I opened the cotton for my hybrid nest for 4 seconds and then I look and the queen Escaped! I freaked out and was VERY careful in getting her back in. It was very beautiful though when she got a welcoming committee once the ants found her. Just a few questions: Do they ever make it to the top at all? Do they ever get past the baby powder mixture? How big is your colony(s) and how many do you have? (A personal question)
Keeper of:
2x Solenopsis invicta (1x founding)
4x Brachymyrmex patagonicus (4x founding)
1x Pheidole Sp. (1x founding)

Past Colonies:
2x Brachymymex
30x Solenopsis invicta (never catch that many it was a mistake ;) )

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