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Hitch3
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Ant Anesthesia Research

Post: # 34278Post Hitch3
Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:37 pm

Hi all,

This post is for researching how long it takes to ‘knockout’ an ant in the freezer. It is to help people freezing their ants reduce the risk of killing them.

The time till the ant is knocked out in the freezer differs from species to species as the more body mass their is to freeze the longer it takes. Some small ants can be knocked out in 30 seconds, whereas some can go in 2 minutes.

If you have read the other topic where some one was asking about ‘Ant Anesthesia’, you will know why I am doing this.
http://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=5548

If you would like to participate, please just test a queen and worker of a species of ant, and post times (times being the time it takes to knock out the ant.

Example:

Species: xxxxx xxxxxx Queen Time: xx Worker Time: xx
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvjcyJWitRSztq51HziS0Dg

Keeping:
2x Iridomyrmex Bicknelli
2 x Nylanderia sp
Camponotus Consobrinus
Pheidole sp
Rhytidoponera metallica

Founding:
Pheidole sp
2x Cremogaster
12x Iridomyrmex Bicknelli
Polyarhis sp

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PenguinAntKeeper
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Re: Ant Anesthesia Research

Post: # 34281Post PenguinAntKeeper
Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:14 pm

Why would you want to freeze them in the first place? To slow them down enough to get a good picture you could just put them in the fridge for a little while.. :?:
Hibernating: (all)

Parasitic Lasius:2

Founding:
Tetramorium Immigrans:2

Colonies:
Tetramorium Immigrans:1
Formica Spp:3

I'm new to ant keeping so my colonies are all still in test tubes. :roll: :?

idahoantgirl
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Re: Ant Anesthesia Research

Post: # 34284Post idahoantgirl
Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:20 pm

yes... Please don't encourage the use of the freezer. New ant keepers will see it and decide to stick their ants in the freezer resulting in the death of their colonies.
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Lasius Neoniger

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Re: Ant Anesthesia Research

Post: # 34288Post Hitch3
Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:54 am

ok sorry
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvjcyJWitRSztq51HziS0Dg

Keeping:
2x Iridomyrmex Bicknelli
2 x Nylanderia sp
Camponotus Consobrinus
Pheidole sp
Rhytidoponera metallica

Founding:
Pheidole sp
2x Cremogaster
12x Iridomyrmex Bicknelli
Polyarhis sp

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Jadeninja9
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Re: Ant Anesthesia Research

Post: # 34301Post Jadeninja9
Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:44 pm

Why not use a refrigerator?
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Camponotus Hyatti
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8x Lasius alienus colonies
1x Prenolepis imparis queen
1x Dorymrymex bicolor queen

Idahoantguy
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Re: Ant Anesthesia Research

Post: # 34303Post Idahoantguy
Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:24 pm

idahoantgirl wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:20 pm
yes... Please don't encourage the use of the freezer. New ant keepers will see it and decide to stick their ants in the freezer resulting in the death of their colonies.
Yea I think you have to get the timing just right for it to work. Probably not good for beginners.
Founding:
Tetramorium immigrans x1
Keeping:
Tetramorium immigrans x5

Anything but tetramorium please :cry:

idahoantgirl
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Re: Ant Anesthesia Research

Post: # 34305Post idahoantgirl
Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:51 pm

Idahoantguy wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:24 pm
idahoantgirl wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:20 pm
yes... Please don't encourage the use of the freezer. New ant keepers will see it and decide to stick their ants in the freezer resulting in the death of their colonies.
Yea I think you have to get the timing just right for it to work. Probably not good for beginners.
I don't see any reason to ever use the freezer, when you have the fridge. It takes more time, but it is considerably safer.
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Lasius Neoniger

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antnest8
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Re: Ant Anesthesia Research

Post: # 34316Post antnest8
Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:29 pm

i could try it with lasius umbratus queens in the fridge
keeper of
2 lasius umbratus/neoniger colony
1 queen colony of prenolepis
3 C. pennsylvanicus
3 C novaeboracensis
1 Myrmica queen

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