Re: The AntsCanada GAN project is selling invasive ants
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:17 pm
First off, the country I'm living in has absolutely nothing to do with this issue.MadVampy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:25 pmFirst off The user who posted this isn't even in the USA, she is from Germany, she knows nothing of whats going on here but maybe by hearsay. For her to be making comments and threats that have no proof or substantiation she is in fact doing slander towards Mikey Busto's and AntsCanada. She never bought ants in the USA let alone have dealt with the GAN farmers here in the United States, so anything she has said is based on an oppion she came to herself.
#1 Yes Solenopsis is an invasive species we all know that and the GAN farmers are to only sell them to people in the same state. SO RFIA are already active in Georgia, Alabama, Texas, so that means that any GAN farmer can sell thats species in anyone in the same state but not outside of that state (can not cross the border of that state). I know one of the GAN farmers in Georgia and he is very strict to have the person buying the ants show ID as proof they live in the state of Georgia. And that goes for any other species for any state.
Second, I did not say that you are doing illegal sales, I said your sellers (and customers) are potentially breaking the law when they sell RIFA across the RIFA quarantine zone borders (this may very well happen when you sell them to people from the same state), of which's existence many of them probably don't even know in the first place.
Third, there is proof. It's on the GAN store front page. One of GAN's core rules is not selling non-native ants. Solenopsis invicta is not native in the US, in fact it is considered a major invasive pest. (You might want to add a rule to not sell unidentified ants as well.)
I did not say that you are responsible if someone buys them and then brings them out of the state. That would be nonsense as it is completely out of your control. However the RIFA quaratine zone runs straight through the middle of a lot of states (Georgia is not affected as it is already entirely overrun by RIFA and completely within the quarantine zone), also keeping RIFA is illegal in several states (for example California).MadVampy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:25 pmOk like anything with rules there are those that break them....... guy from Georgia buys ants from GAN Farmer in Georgia and then takes them outside of the state, that is not the fault of the GAN Farmer, the GAN project, AntsCanada, or Mikey Busto's! If the species is already active in a state and then taken to another that is isn't active in that makes it an invasive ant simply put.
And in the end Solenopsis invicta is not a native ant, so technically it's against GAN rules anyway.