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New to any keeping and have 2 queens? I'd like help with

Post: # 36824Post Sargentnoid
Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:44 am

Hello I'm from little rock Arkansas and I found my first queens about a month ago the one in the test tube (it's a small tube about 10mm across) I found 2 of and the one on the plastic container I found a small colony many 20 or so workers and I think more then 1 queen (although I'm not sure of that) thanks inadvance for any help

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Re: New to any keeping and have 2 queens? I'd like help with

Post: # 36852Post Batspiderfish
Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:25 pm

The first queen is Camponotus sp., possibly C. discolor or C. decipiens.

The other queen is a somewhat rare find, a Formica social parasite from the microgyna group. Unfortunately it is extremely unlikely that she is mated and you should put the colony sample back and look for dealates in the coming weeks. If you do manage to find one, she will need about 6 Formica pupae.

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Re: New to any keeping and have 2 queens? I'd like help with

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Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:13 pm

just a question batspiderfish. Are you a myrmecologist or just a really big ant enthusiast
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Re: New to any keeping and have 2 queens? I'd like help with

Post: # 36863Post Batspiderfish
Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:44 pm

antnest8 wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:13 pm
just a question batspiderfish. Are you a myrmecologist or just a really big ant enthusiast
Just an older ant enthusiast. AntsCanada doesn't really have anybody that can reliably identify North American ants, so I'm filling that niche in the hopes of unveiling the diversity that many new hobbyists don't yet notice. Ant forums used to have myrmecologist members before ants were commoditized.
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Re: New to any keeping and have 2 queens? I'd like help with

Post: # 36866Post antnest8
Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:00 pm

how did you get to be such a good identifier?
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Re: New to any keeping and have 2 queens? I'd like help with

Post: # 36869Post Batspiderfish
Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:06 pm

If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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Re: New to any keeping and have 2 queens? I'd like help with

Post: # 36886Post Sargentnoid
Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:56 pm

If it helps any these are the ants that the one you said was a Formica queen are with and someone in the colony is producing brood

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Re: New to any keeping and have 2 queens? I'd like help with

Post: # 36890Post Sargentnoid
Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:06 pm

Also took some more pics of the Camponotus sp.queen this is the second one I caught


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And this is the first one I caught that was kind of unexpected as I was sitting on the toilet in my house and it walked out into the floor (also I just got my first worker in this one)

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Re: New to any keeping and have 2 queens? I'd like help with

Post: # 36891Post Batspiderfish
Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:12 pm

Sargentnoid wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:56 pm
If it helps any these are the ants that the one you said was a Formica queen are with and someone in the colony is producing brood
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Oh! Hey! These are pallidefulva group workers, and I just noticed that the queen in the picture seems to have been missing the wings on one side. Maybe this is a colony that she already infiltrated! Hang onto them and give it a shot. Take good care of them! I'd like to see how this goes.

Can we get any shots of them close together? Microgyna-group queens are typically close to the same size as her workers.
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Re: New to any keeping and have 2 queens? I'd like help with

Post: # 36896Post Sargentnoid
Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:50 pm

Not a great picture but you can see one of the queens on the right next to the tube I am pretty sure I saw another queen that ran and hid. I am in the process of getting a formicarium setup for them (wasn't planning on having a colony quite so soon)

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