Can Prenolepis Imparis ants be black/dark brown?

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AngeredFlame850
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Can Prenolepis Imparis ants be black/dark brown?

Post: # 34101Post AngeredFlame850
Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:20 pm

I have a queen ant who I am a bit unsure of and I am making thinking that it might be a prenolepis ant as she is laying eggs even though it is winter... However, she is not light brown/orangiesh as prenolepis ants so I am wondering if they can also be black. Here is a clip of my queen ant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMtqF8KoTh0
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Re: Can Prenolepis Imparis ants be black/dark brown?

Post: # 34102Post idahoantgirl
Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:33 pm

AngeredFlame850 wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:20 pm
I have a queen ant who I am a bit unsure of and I am making thinking that it might be a prenolepis ant as she is laying eggs even though it is winter... However, she is not light brown/orangiesh as prenolepis ants so I am wondering if they can also be black. Here is a clip of my queen ant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMtqF8KoTh0
my guess is formica
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Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

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Re: Can Prenolepis Imparis ants be black/dark brown?

Post: # 34106Post AngeredFlame850
Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:48 pm

idahoantgirl wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:33 pm
AngeredFlame850 wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:20 pm
I have a queen ant who I am a bit unsure of and I am making thinking that it might be a prenolepis ant as she is laying eggs even though it is winter... However, she is not light brown/orangiesh as prenolepis ants so I am wondering if they can also be black. Here is a clip of my queen ant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMtqF8KoTh0
my guess is formica
Oh Okay
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Re: Can Prenolepis Imparis ants be black/dark brown?

Post: # 34107Post PenguinAntKeeper
Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:55 pm

When did you catch her?
Hibernating: (all)

Parasitic Lasius:2

Founding:
Tetramorium Immigrans:2

Colonies:
Tetramorium Immigrans:1
Formica Spp:3

I'm new to ant keeping so my colonies are all still in test tubes. :roll: :?

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Re: Can Prenolepis Imparis ants be black/dark brown?

Post: # 34108Post AngeredFlame850
Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:21 pm

PenguinAntKeeper wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:55 pm
When did you catch her?
Late august or early september in Virginia (USA)
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Re: Can Prenolepis Imparis ants be black/dark brown?

Post: # 34111Post PenguinAntKeeper
Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:30 pm

Based on that I would guess Lasius sp. or Crematogaster sp. but I would wait for a more experienced person to identify them, like batspiderfish. Definitely not Prenolepis imparis if you caught her in September/August.
Hibernating: (all)

Parasitic Lasius:2

Founding:
Tetramorium Immigrans:2

Colonies:
Tetramorium Immigrans:1
Formica Spp:3

I'm new to ant keeping so my colonies are all still in test tubes. :roll: :?

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Re: Can Prenolepis Imparis ants be black/dark brown?

Post: # 34139Post AngeredFlame850
Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:43 pm

PenguinAntKeeper wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:30 pm
Based on that I would guess Lasius sp. or Crematogaster sp. but I would wait for a more experienced person to identify them, like batspiderfish. Definitely not Prenolepis imparis if you caught her in September/August.
Ok thx
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Re: Can Prenolepis Imparis ants be black/dark brown?

Post: # 34147Post AngeredFlame850
Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:02 pm

Here is another video taken from the side angle. Her wings are bent for some reason and won't come off. Thanks for the help so far! :)
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Re: Can Prenolepis Imparis ants be black/dark brown?

Post: # 34212Post Jadeninja9
Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:37 am

Prenolepis imparis can be dark brown like mine, but they fly from January-May, and your's doesn't look like a Prenolepis imparis queen, so it's most likely Formica sp.
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