Help With Ponera pennsylvanica Queen

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PTasker15
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Help With Ponera pennsylvanica Queen

Post: # 32975Post PTasker15
Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:07 pm

I Just Caught A Ponera pennsylvanica Queen And I Am Wandering A Few Things;
Is She Semi-Claustral?She Stung Me When I Found Her(She Has Wing Scars,And A Few Eggs)
Do I Hibernate Her Since Its Late November And I Just Caught Her?
Also,About How Long From Egg To Worker?
All Help Appreciated!
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Re: Help With Ponera pennsylvanica Queen

Post: # 32977Post antsRlife
Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:01 pm

they look semi-claustral, and i think keep her awake until she has a worker, ether wise all her work she has done will be lost.
founding queens:
x2 componotus consobrinus
x1 iridimrmex bicknelli
x5+ Linepithema humile
x1 unknown queen (either phiodole or camponotus)

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Re: Help With Ponera pennsylvanica Queen

Post: # 32980Post idahoantgirl
Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:51 pm

I disagree. I would recommend following what this ant would be doing in the wild, which is hibernating. Place her in a cool place (unheated garage, crawlspace, attic, shed) And let her do what she is supposed to do. you can provide her with food in case she decides she wants some.
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Lasius Neoniger

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Re: Help With Ponera pennsylvanica Queen

Post: # 32985Post PTasker15
Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:47 am

idahoantgirl wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:51 pm
I disagree. I would recommend following what this ant would be doing in the wild, which is hibernating. Place her in a cool place (unheated garage, crawlspace, attic, shed) And let her do what she is supposed to do. you can provide her with food in case she decides she wants some.
Does A Box Closed In A Cold Closet Work(Temp-About 51°F)
These Are My Pretty,Pretty Queens

Proud Owner Of;A Odontomachis Clarus Queen,A RIFA Colony,1 Pheidole Texana Colony,A Paratrechina Lonchicornus Colony,A Nylanderia Fulva Colony,Lasius Neoniger,And Ponera pennsylvanica

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Re: Help With Ponera pennsylvanica Queen

Post: # 32987Post idahoantgirl
Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:56 pm

PTasker15 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:47 am
idahoantgirl wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:51 pm
I disagree. I would recommend following what this ant would be doing in the wild, which is hibernating. Place her in a cool place (unheated garage, crawlspace, attic, shed) And let her do what she is supposed to do. you can provide her with food in case she decides she wants some.
Does A Box Closed In A Cold Closet Work(Temp-About 51°F)
Yeah that could work if that is your best option. A cooler is preferred, but that should be alright :)
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Lasius Neoniger

Dearth335

Re: Help With Ponera pennsylvanica Queen

Post: # 33020Post Dearth335
Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:48 pm

Do not, I repeat do NOT hibernate P. Pennsylvanica the queen will lay during the summer and winter. Also she is semi-claustral and needs fed.

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Re: Help With Ponera pennsylvanica Queen

Post: # 33030Post idahoantgirl
Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:13 am

Dearth335 wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:48 pm
Do not, I repeat do NOT hibernate P. Pennsylvanica the queen will lay during the summer and winter. Also she is semi-claustral and needs fed.
Do you have a source for this? Are you just saying that you can keep the queen from hibernation and she will lay eggs in an unnatural time of year, or are you saying that this species in Texas does not hibernate? It makes sense to me to always have them at a temperature close to what they would be living in as a local wild ant colony.
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Lasius Neoniger

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Re: Help With Ponera pennsylvanica Queen

Post: # 33031Post idahoantgirl
Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:17 am

idahoantgirl wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:56 pm
PTasker15 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:47 am
idahoantgirl wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:51 pm
I disagree. I would recommend following what this ant would be doing in the wild, which is hibernating. Place her in a cool place (unheated garage, crawlspace, attic, shed) And let her do what she is supposed to do. you can provide her with food in case she decides she wants some.
Does A Box Closed In A Cold Closet Work(Temp-About 51°F)
Yeah that could work if that is your best option. A cooler is preferred, but that should be alright :)

woops I mean cooler not a cooler.
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Lasius Neoniger

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Re: Help With Ponera pennsylvanica Queen

Post: # 33053Post PTasker15
Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:36 am

idahoantgirl wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:17 am
idahoantgirl wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:56 pm
PTasker15 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:47 am


Does A Box Closed In A Cold Closet Work(Temp-About 51°F)
Yeah that could work if that is your best option. A cooler is preferred, but that should be alright :)

woops I mean cooler not a cooler.
Err..
None Of My Ants Hibernated In That Box.....Ummm....Thanks Global Warming....What Do I Do With Her?
These Are My Pretty,Pretty Queens

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Re: Help With Ponera pennsylvanica Queen

Post: # 33056Post Batspiderfish
Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:02 am

Are you sure she is not Hypoponera sp., which is more common in the southern US? You would have to look for a small tooth under the petiole to tell them apart.

Hibernation isn't something you can see; it is just the ants at a cold temperature and lower metabolism.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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