Could hypoponera be molygenous?

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Could hypoponera be molygenous?

Post: # 23414Post AntsSA
Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:49 pm

So I caught a third hypoponera eduardi queen yesterday, the other 2 I've had about 3 months now. Could I keep 2 in the same tube. (The new one and an old one together)
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lepisiota capensis colony
Cardiocondyla sp.
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Messor. Sp. X 4
Myrmicine Sp. X 2
atopomyrmex Sp. X 2
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Re: Could hypoponera be molygenous?

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Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:30 am

The correct term is polygynous.

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Re: Could hypoponera be molygenous?

Post: # 23423Post AntsSA
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:28 am

Sorry I woke up 15 minutes before typing that
Keeping.
lepisiota capensis colony
Cardiocondyla sp.
Founding
Messor. Sp. X 4
Myrmicine Sp. X 2
atopomyrmex Sp. X 2
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Re: Could hypoponera be molygenous?

Post: # 23636Post AntLove5Ever
Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:26 am

No, polygyny often does not work in captivity, especially if the queens have already started colonies. It may work if they were caught and belonged to the same colony prior to mating, but it is likely to end in one or two dead queens if you introduce them now. Usually the only ants you can reliably mix with little to no risk are argentine ants. That being said, IDK if they are polygynous.

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Re: Could hypoponera be molygenous?

Post: # 23638Post Jadeninja9
Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:41 am

AntLove5Ever wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:26 am
No, polygyny often does not work in captivity, especially if the queens have already started colonies. It may work if they were caught and belonged to the same colony prior to mating, but it is likely to end in one or two dead queens if you introduce them now. Usually the only ants you can reliably mix with little to no risk are argentine ants. That being said, IDK if they are polygynous.
That's not true at all. You can definitely put queens together that are known to be polygynous and it works a good amount of the time.
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Re: Could hypoponera be molygenous?

Post: # 23642Post AntLove5Ever
Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:32 am

Jadeninja9 wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:41 am
AntLove5Ever wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:26 am
No, polygyny often does not work in captivity, especially if the queens have already started colonies. It may work if they were caught and belonged to the same colony prior to mating, but it is likely to end in one or two dead queens if you introduce them now. Usually the only ants you can reliably mix with little to no risk are argentine ants. That being said, IDK if they are polygynous.
That's not true at all. You can definitely put queens together that are known to be polygynous and it works a good amount of the time.
Um, no. It is quite dangerous and will often end up in the ant you introduce dying. Usually they have to be together before they found a colony if it will work, and any basic tutorial on raising queens will tell you mixing them is not a good idea.

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Re: Could hypoponera be molygenous?

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Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:11 am

AntLove5Ever wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:32 am
Jadeninja9 wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:41 am
AntLove5Ever wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:26 am
No, polygyny often does not work in captivity, especially if the queens have already started colonies. It may work if they were caught and belonged to the same colony prior to mating, but it is likely to end in one or two dead queens if you introduce them now. Usually the only ants you can reliably mix with little to no risk are argentine ants. That being said, IDK if they are polygynous.
That's not true at all. You can definitely put queens together that are known to be polygynous and it works a good amount of the time.
Um, no. It is quite dangerous and will often end up in the ant you introduce dying. Usually they have to be together before they found a colony if it will work, and any basic tutorial on raising queens will tell you mixing them is not a good idea.
Truly polygynous ants will often adopt new queens, and separate colonies may merge.

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Re: Could hypoponera be molygenous?

Post: # 23656Post AntLove5Ever
Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:56 pm

123LordOfAnts123 wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:11 am
AntLove5Ever wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:32 am
Jadeninja9 wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:41 am


That's not true at all. You can definitely put queens together that are known to be polygynous and it works a good amount of the time.
Um, no. It is quite dangerous and will often end up in the ant you introduce dying. Usually they have to be together before they found a colony if it will work, and any basic tutorial on raising queens will tell you mixing them is not a good idea.
Truly polygynous ants will often adopt new queens, and separate colonies may merge.
There are very few species that you introduce two colonies and they just mix. This will more likely than not lead to a war. This is due to different colony scents. Mixing the two hypoponera will almost certainly lead to a sting off between the two queens, especially if one already has brood.

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