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OGGKING1
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Ant has no desire to nest

Post: # 98735Post OGGKING1
Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:27 am

Recently I caught a myrmecia simillima bullant queen (wingless ergatroid bullant) I have kept bullants before but this one is acting very weird. I put it in a ventilated container with a test tube (covered in foil)

For some odd reason the bullant keeps on trying to escape and has no desire to nest, it is just staying In the outworld.

Ps I currently don’t have any substrate but I will get some as soon as I can, since the larvae need it to spin cocoons.
ant colonies owned

myrmecia pilosula
monomorium sp
iridomyrmex bicknelli
Nylanderia sp
Myrmecia simillima
Pheidole sp
Melophorus sp x3(for sale)
Myrmecia fulvipes (for sale)

OGGKING1
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Re: Ant has no desire to nest

Post: # 98737Post OGGKING1
Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:49 am

Also here are pics of my setup

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ant colonies owned

myrmecia pilosula
monomorium sp
iridomyrmex bicknelli
Nylanderia sp
Myrmecia simillima
Pheidole sp
Melophorus sp x3(for sale)
Myrmecia fulvipes (for sale)

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RubyAntKeeper77
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Re: Ant has no desire to nest

Post: # 98744Post RubyAntKeeper77
Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:51 pm

I have not seen the photos, but I would guess she is semi claustral queen which means she is looking for food.
Why don’t more people like ants?
Is anyone from Wyoming who wants to sell ants?

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Re: Ant has no desire to nest

Post: # 98759Post Antmanboy
Sat Apr 15, 2023 5:51 pm

RubyAntKeeper77 wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:51 pm
I have not seen the photos, but I would guess she is semi claustral queen which means she is looking for food.
I would agree with this. From what I've seen in Ants Aus videos, most bull ants are semi claustral. I would try to give her a bug if she is semi claustral

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Re: Ant has no desire to nest

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Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:54 am

OGGKING1 wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:27 am
Recently I caught a myrmecia simillima bullant queen (wingless ergatroid bullant) I have kept bullants before but this one is acting very weird. I put it in a ventilated container with a test tube (covered in foil)

For some odd reason the bullant keeps on trying to escape and has no desire to nest, it is just staying In the outworld.

Ps I currently don’t have any substrate but I will get some as soon as I can, since the larvae need it to spin cocoons.
You are so lucky to be able to keep bull ants. From what I know they are only found in Australia. Also, in your pictures, the ant looks a bit like a worker ant, but I think that's because of the blurriness through the plastic. Good luck talking care of your ants.
I have found more queens!
-Polyrhachis laevissima (left only queen)
-Pheidole parva (TOO MUCH)
-Iridomyrmex Anceps
-Polyrhachis dives
Hope to catch camponotus soon...

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Re: Ant has no desire to nest

Post: # 98803Post antperson24
Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:29 am

AntsAreCool715 wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:54 am
OGGKING1 wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:27 am
Recently I caught a myrmecia simillima bullant queen (wingless ergatroid bullant) I have kept bullants before but this one is acting very weird. I put it in a ventilated container with a test tube (covered in foil)

For some odd reason the bullant keeps on trying to escape and has no desire to nest, it is just staying In the outworld.

Ps I currently don’t have any substrate but I will get some as soon as I can, since the larvae need it to spin cocoons.
You are so lucky to be able to keep bull ants. From what I know they are only found in Australia. Also, in your pictures, the ant looks a bit like a worker ant, but I think that's because of the blurriness through the plastic. Good luck talking care of your ants.
No, it's a queen. That's just the way Myrmicinae queens look.
Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?
There are so many fascinating ants right where you live!
I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that aren't in your area.

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Re: Ant has no desire to nest

Post: # 98835Post OGGKING1
Fri Apr 21, 2023 2:27 am

Still no luck It’s been about a week since capture and the queen is still roaming the out world not interested in the test tube. Maybe the test tube environment is unsuitable? Maybe it is too cold because it is nearing winter here in Australia

Also the bullant is a queen because it is a special species of bullant that produces queens with little to no wing scars and are hard to distinguish from workers.
ant colonies owned

myrmecia pilosula
monomorium sp
iridomyrmex bicknelli
Nylanderia sp
Myrmecia simillima
Pheidole sp
Melophorus sp x3(for sale)
Myrmecia fulvipes (for sale)

OGGKING1
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Re: Ant has no desire to nest

Post: # 98859Post OGGKING1
Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:06 pm

RubyAntKeeper77 wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:51 pm
I have not seen the photos, but I would guess she is semi claustral queen which means she is looking for food.
I have provided a bit of honey and a chopped up mealworms and the bullant hasn’t touched the food. I have reason to believe she may be infertile since the behaviour is similar to an unrated queen of the same species (roaming around on the ground waiting for a male to fly down) it would also explain the ants unwillingness to nest.
ant colonies owned

myrmecia pilosula
monomorium sp
iridomyrmex bicknelli
Nylanderia sp
Myrmecia simillima
Pheidole sp
Melophorus sp x3(for sale)
Myrmecia fulvipes (for sale)

OGGKING1
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Re: Ant has no desire to nest

Post: # 98913Post OGGKING1
Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:26 am

Update: I checked on it the other day and luckily is has decided to nest (it think it was just stressed or hungry)

This is very good news! It’s very odd though because the bigger myrmecia queens act much different than the smaller ones, some examples being that they get much more stressed easier and that they need to feed before finding a place to nest and lay eggs.

I know this from experience of raising a colony of jumping jacks
ant colonies owned

myrmecia pilosula
monomorium sp
iridomyrmex bicknelli
Nylanderia sp
Myrmecia simillima
Pheidole sp
Melophorus sp x3(for sale)
Myrmecia fulvipes (for sale)

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Re: Ant has no desire to nest

Post: # 98914Post antperson24
Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:03 am

OGGKING1 wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:26 am
Update: I checked on it the other day and luckily is has decided to nest (it think it was just stressed or hungry)

This is very good news! It’s very odd though because the bigger myrmecia queens act much different than the smaller ones, some examples being that they get much more stressed easier and that they need to feed before finding a place to nest and lay eggs.

I know this from experience of raising a colony of jumping jacks
Great, I hope she does well!
Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?
There are so many fascinating ants right where you live!
I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that aren't in your area.

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