Harvester Ant (Pogonomyrmex barbatus)

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Harvester Ant (Pogonomyrmex barbatus)

Post: # 1422Post Crimsonant
Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:51 pm

I would like to know the best way to find the queen and start up a colony or if its even a good idea for this type of ant I'm 100% new to the ant keeping hobby and these ants are abundant where I'm from. I think there the Pogonomyrmex barbatus (Harvester Ant). There's a lot of dark red ants then there's a few that are a light orange color.

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Re: Harvester Ant (Pogonomyrmex barbatus)

Post: # 1435Post ooper01
Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:35 pm

Most likely harvester ants. They are plentiful across the western USA. I have collected harvester queens the past two years and had success raising them. They have already flown here in Utah, not sure about your area. You may be able to find some that have already burrowed in. You will see a small mound of dirt, usually only a half circle. The queens are usually 6 to 12 inches down if you want to try and dig them up. You may want to look for any larvae they have as well. You can see the journal I have here that tracks my most successful colony.

http://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=196

Happy to answer any additional questions you may have on harvester ants.
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Re: Harvester Ant (Pogonomyrmex barbatus)

Post: # 1440Post Crimsonant
Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:07 pm

I never thought about digging them up, are they different size or color?

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Re: Harvester Ant (Pogonomyrmex barbatus)

Post: # 1466Post ooper01
Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:50 pm

I would suggest you only attempt to dig up a newly mated queen, not an established colony. It is very difficult to find a harvester queen in an established colony and kinda mean too ;) But newly mated queens are not too difficult to find this time of year in areas where you know harvester ants live, especially if it hasn't rained since the nuptial flight.

Just look for a small mound of dirt in a semi-circle around a plugged-up hole and carefully dig 6 to 12 inches down or so. She will be red in color, most likely have shed her wings and will be noticeably larger than the workers you may see from other colonies roaming around.
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Re: Harvester Ant (Pogonomyrmex barbatus)

Post: # 1495Post Crimsonant
Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:42 am

Ok fantastic thanks for your help! where do you get your seeds from i was doing some research and it says they mostly forage for seeds?

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Re: Harvester Ant (Pogonomyrmex barbatus)

Post: # 1497Post ooper01
Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:48 am

I have collected seeds from grasses near the native ant colonies before, but what I do now is just use some crushed grain that I feed my chickens! ;) It looks like this:
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My harvester ants love it!
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Re: Harvester Ant (Pogonomyrmex barbatus)

Post: # 1555Post Crimsonant
Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:18 pm

Alright i went out early today and i got maybe 15 of the winged ants but im not sure how to tell the difference from the male/ female

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Re: Harvester Ant (Pogonomyrmex barbatus)

Post: # 1556Post Carl75
Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:27 pm

Compare sizes of the ones you caught. Generally the queens are a lot bigger. The males will die quickly after mating.

You can post pictures and see if people here think they are queens. More experienced ant keeper than me can also identify species for you if you aren't sure.

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Re: Harvester Ant (Pogonomyrmex barbatus)

Post: # 1557Post Crimsonant
Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:32 pm

awesome! ill take some pics and upload them soon!

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Re: Harvester Ant (Pogonomyrmex barbatus)

Post: # 1564Post ooper01
Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:53 pm

Crimsonant wrote:Alright i went out early today and i got maybe 15 of the winged ants but im not sure how to tell the difference from the male/ female
How did you get them? Do they still have wings?
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