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Max Temperature for Camponotus CA02?

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:27 am
by Nate515
Someone told me that the hotter the better for carpenter ants, they even said keeping it at 85F or more.
I have mines located in a 11x4x4 rectangular container, nest test tube in it.
I want to increase the temperature to speed up their activity and how fast they hatch.
So what max safe temperature can I have them?
She's still in her test tube with her 6 nanitic worker ants.

Nest Temperature?
and Outworld temperature?

Though at the moment, I think if I heat the outworld temperature to 85, it's gonna be 85F in the nest area too as the areas are too close/small to make that gradient I think.

Can someone also help me with this here? Those are the other questions I have
https://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=27053

Re: Max Temperature for Camponotus CA02?

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:13 pm
by antperson24
Nate515 wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:27 am
Someone told me that the hotter the better for carpenter ants, they even said keeping it at 85F or more.
I have mines located in a 11x4x4 rectangular container, nest test tube in it.
I want to increase the temperature to speed up their activity and how fast they hatch.
So what max safe temperature can I have them?
She's still in her test tube with her 6 nanitic worker ants.

Nest Temperature?
and Outworld temperature?

Though at the moment, I think if I heat the outworld temperature to 85, it's gonna be 85F in the nest area too as the areas are too close/small to make that gradient I think.

Can someone also help me with this here? Those are the other questions I have
https://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=27053
I would just leave the outworld the way it is. Just use this heating cable and it will help: https://www.AntsCanada.com/shop/heat-cable-15-watt/ The cable gets up to 105 degrees F. but it won't be that hot in the nest.

Re: Max Temperature for Camponotus CA02?

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:36 pm
by Nate515
antperson24 wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:13 pm
Nate515 wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:27 am
Someone told me that the hotter the better for carpenter ants, they even said keeping it at 85F or more.
I have mines located in a 11x4x4 rectangular container, nest test tube in it.
I want to increase the temperature to speed up their activity and how fast they hatch.
So what max safe temperature can I have them?
She's still in her test tube with her 6 nanitic worker ants.

Nest Temperature?
and Outworld temperature?

Though at the moment, I think if I heat the outworld temperature to 85, it's gonna be 85F in the nest area too as the areas are too close/small to make that gradient I think.

Can someone also help me with this here? Those are the other questions I have
https://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=27053
I would just leave the outworld the way it is. Just use this heating cable and it will help: https://www.AntsCanada.com/shop/heat-cable-15-watt/ The cable gets up to 105 degrees F. but it won't be that hot in the nest.
Yeah so, what's the max temperature should I put for the outworld?

I want to increase their activity, I need a number.

Can I keep it 85F?

Re: Max Temperature for Camponotus CA02?

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:50 am
by antperson24
Nate515 wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:36 pm
antperson24 wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:13 pm
Nate515 wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:27 am
Someone told me that the hotter the better for carpenter ants, they even said keeping it at 85F or more.
I have mines located in a 11x4x4 rectangular container, nest test tube in it.
I want to increase the temperature to speed up their activity and how fast they hatch.
So what max safe temperature can I have them?
She's still in her test tube with her 6 nanitic worker ants.

Nest Temperature?
and Outworld temperature?

Though at the moment, I think if I heat the outworld temperature to 85, it's gonna be 85F in the nest area too as the areas are too close/small to make that gradient I think.

Can someone also help me with this here? Those are the other questions I have
https://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=27053
I would just leave the outworld the way it is. Just use this heating cable and it will help: https://www.AntsCanada.com/shop/heat-cable-15-watt/ The cable gets up to 105 degrees F. but it won't be that hot in the nest.
Yeah so, what's the max temperature should I put for the outworld?

I want to increase their activity, I need a number.

Can I keep it 85F?
They will be just as active in the out world with heat as without out heat as long as it's over 70 F. in your house.

Re: Max Temperature for Camponotus CA02?

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:34 am
by Nate515
Alright so from what I've found, most guides are saying Nest temperature of 20-25C (68-77F) is good. Outworld temperature 20-28C (68-82F).

99% of the people say don't go over 80F in the nest, especially if they're not a desert species.

HOWEVER, I got one buddy that threw a wrench into it a bit as he said that after introducing his queen (same species Camponotus CA02) to a Formicarium and giving it a heat gradient, his queen actually CHOSE to have its brood over an area that's 85F. He just started that a few weeks ago and noticed a lot of productivity though only time will tell on how successful it stays at 85F.

I kinda argued a bit and said maybe she chose that spot because she felt like it was the most secure even though it was a tad hot? But yeah, so far it's working for him. I plan to do the same once my formicarium arrives (create that 85F zone and a gradient)